**** Viberg Bobcats and Derby Shoes fit a bit larger in the same last compared to a service boot. They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. Im really tempted to name and praise (as opposed to name and shame! If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. Arch might be a little too aggressive for my right foot, but it should break in more. This I find quite interesting, since you certainly arent the only one. Alden Aberdeen: 9.5E fits me really well with medium socks. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. Its a company started in 2014 that I discovered today. if youre going to write mean spirited attacks on someone you shouldnt be surprised that they defend themselves and reply in kind Overall, would you have a favourite among these brands? To take an example, say youre in the market for an adelaide. Also worth noting, is that Ive never written about this on Shoegazing, it just came up in the discussion with Simon when we talked about differences. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. Other than that, interesting article. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. A bespoke suit certainly flatters the owner, makes them look good. The former is made in Spain, the latter in Portugal. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 You are of course free to think that theres better sources than Shoegazing. The alternative is leather board read the rest of the article and youll see it. Additional notes: Heel-to-toe is 10, width on the border of D/E; heel-to-ball is 11. Barrie: 10D (I might be able to pull 9.5 with thin socks), 9.5 E, Tuesday split toe boots (no last name): 9.5, Borneo: 42 EU (snug fit with plenty room for toe to wiggle with medium socks), Kujang: 42.5 EU (snug fit with medium socks), 325: 9.5 UK (had to re-purchase just to recall my size), 365: 9 UK (snug with medium socks, would probably be clown looking if I went 9.5, but who knows), Military: 44 EU (had to throw thick socks for this, but no way I could pull 43, the weirdest fitting last Ive ever had), 4497: 9.5 UK fitting 6 (could probably pull 9 UK or same size but 5 fitting instead), 2020: 9.5 (with medium socks it fit snug). Also I feel the toe space is a bit too narrow. Carlos Santos are another example of value shoes of great quality to price ratio. Carmina shoes are well-fitting shoes that grip your feet firmly on the go so that you get more balance and stability in your motions. It depends what else you have of course, but a dark brown or slimmer overall look is more likely to be more useful,.and certainly better for suits. Ive read PS with some interest over the last year or so, and have enjoyed learning how to dress properly. However, always be careful about brands that give the impression their leather is the same quality as the top makers. 18 Last 10: Great fit. Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. It is certain that a great pair of Carmina shoes would last you longer than any pair of Meermin shoes today. Allen Edmonds 511 9.5D: Seemed like a bad fit or just poorly lasted. I also happen to like their lasts, which are sleeker than anything else I own but the C&J 348. Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. It will be creeping in going forward too, whenever it makes sense. Looking to buy (a much much cheaper alternative to aldens ) the Berwick plain toe derbyhttps://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6. Vans Old Skool/Era: 11D, solid out of the box. The class that you are getting for Carmina shoes is of real excellence. And in pictures I can see a difference in appearance, at least in terms of shape and design, but I am not sure if there is much of a difference elsewhere (I get that bespoke and such will fit nicer). Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. Extraordinary. Moderate arch. It has a bigger heel and is slightly shorter than 2030, but not enough to warrant sizing up. High Top vs Low Top Boxing Shoes: Which Is Best for You? Bespoke obviously solves this but I dont care enough about the other elements you get and pay for with bespoke, or perhaps I just think 2k+ is too much and I suspect (hope?) NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. very snug in the toes. The only issue is that the classic range is very stiff, and hard to break in. Feel free to include any additional information about your feet, such as: Specific circumferential measurements (as requested by Bakers, Russell Moccasin, etc). Although, suede uppers would take a long time to wear out. I have some upcoming which Ill be updating once arrived. Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. They have done a small amount of RTW for a while, its just enlarged recently. Meermins are not bad fits though; these shoes are flexible and stretchable enough to blend with your feet measurements accurately once you get the right sizing. Made in Spain. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. 2. Im afraid Im not great on recommending sizing issues like that. I once dumped a veritable fortune on a pair of bespoke Berluttis that caused me so much physical discomfort I was left with the impression they had been designed by the Gestapo. I must admit, my original motivations were more around my budget limitations, but I think I am also strangely more attached to them having visited the factory (the same site since their manufacturing started in the late 19th century) and learnt about their provenance. The quotes throughout are his. Sizing as 10E and filling in vertical space as needed seems to offer the best fit, without any of the above problems. My girlfriend values their classic oxfords because they are not Goodyear and have soft insoles making them very comfy. ", Spain 1: TLB, Yanko, Septieme Largeur and Andres Sendra. The Santos shoes that I own are comparable in quality to my Carmina, Cheaney and C&J mainline shoes. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. With its classic and timeless design, this last seems to resist the course of time. Also it seems that Carmina outlet in Granada used to sell Meermin shoes a few years back. Some of it is differences in leather and lined vs unlined, but a lot of it is lasting differences. If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. A very useful piece for me as Im slowly getting into the joys of proper shoes. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. Quality control for us sticklers has been in question dating back to the aughts. If I may add to this discussion, i recently purchased a pair of burgundy penny loafers from morjas. Andres Sendra: I have a pair of wholecuts. I've come to think of myself as a 10E. They have a lot of life left in them. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. I have 3 pairs of meermin and they are not hard to break in (aside from heel). Guessing I'd need 9.5D or 9EE. Their price seems similar to or slightly higher than C&J Handgrade collections but I wasnt sure as they are a French brand. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. If you will be ordering from the Trickers website, I suggest going over the fine print. Is there a reason for that? Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. Was no question about it in any of the cases). Im always trying to promote Goodyear-welted shoes, but its not easy when someone has just tried Meermin, and thinks all proper shoes are that hard. No worries at all, its much appreciated. Goto-san requires tracings to be sized in these and you really should have them done. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. So on the making you get all closed channels, you get all leatherboard or even leather heel stiffeners, you get a rounded side on the heel on both inside and outside, a slightly bevelled waist etc. Generally, more expensive suedes are the softer stuff, so it seems to me that theyd actually wear faster. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Dress socks. And sorry for the long post, whenever I come across such I wonder whether the guy is a bit insane, but then, passion, what? However, when I visited meermin pop up in London, I dont think I would ever get a black box calf from them! Many thanks in advance, If you want something that very versatile, I wouldnt go with burgundy. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Easily the best of the budget shoes and whilst they dont match Crockett and Jones, they are not a million miles away. When you see and feel the quality that you are getting with these shoes, Im sure that you will feel pleased with your expenses. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Please use this thread to list your sizing in various lasts compared to your Brannock size. , yet they settle for shoes at a, relatively speaking, much lower level. 9.5D heel to toe. Feels okay but gets painful in the midfoot as the day progresses. Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Besides a very enthusiastic and engaging chap in the Jermyn Street store, whose name I have forgotten, they could do with taking lessons from the brands mentioned in this post. Not having a physical shop makes a small difference, as does not selling wholesale or using an agent, but that doesnt translate to a shoe thats twice the quality. Meermin US UK Narrow. So lets see. I was very impressed with the integrity of your website after reading IS THIS AN ADVERT? Free shipping for many products! The shoes might look good on the feet, but if you pick them up and look closer, youll notice little errors. It was a hard break in, mostly just the arch. Renav Goods Co A-1 Unstructured 42: Good fit for summer, but maxes out at Chup sock thickness. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. Low instep fits me perfectly. They make shell cordovan shoes and boots for under $450 (sometimes as cheap as $350 ), which is basically unheard of in 2019. I like my shoes with a long point extra shiny..low like Aldos Heel to ball fits much like Barrie 9.5D, with a tiny bit more volume, but toe box tapers more sharply from both sides. I started out with Allen Edmunds because they offer reasonably priced shoes (for Americans) with decent quality. I dont think it is available outside of Japan though. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, flexible, and relaxing than the Meermins. When changing the width of a shoe e.g. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. Id have to say that, based on my personal experience, the C&J shops are one of the great strengths of the company. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes when all things are considered. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes, but they are also more valuable. Do you not think theres some advantage to dealing directly with the maker, and perhaps an understandable desire from the maker to control some more of the customer experience? Being cheaper is an objective description of price. He also claims that Barker use corrected grain leather on some of their shoes I asked them and the is not true. Thanks EL. Side-note: >90% of the sneakers I've worn over the years have been 10D, mostly Vans growing up and later Asics. Its just the next level up. Youre right, the second pair are a little more casual, but I think either would be OK and personally I prefer the shorter apron of the former. The two brands are roughly the same level of make, with the price difference largely coming down to costs of labour in the UK and Spain. Low arches but not flat. The choice of quality leather materials makes Meermin shoes very versatile and fitting for many wardrobes. Viberg 2020 8.5 Stitchdown: Pretty snug, cannot wear boot socks in. The comment is only in reference to leather. Will post more fit notes when they arrive. Altra Lone Peak 3.5: 12D, weirdly enough. Carmina shoes are good shoes that firmly grip your feet for extra balance and stability. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. I own a pair of JL Lopez loafers (995) and a pair of Cheaney Lewisham (380) and with the exception of the fact that JL claim a hand stitched apron, I cant see any qualitative difference whatsoever. Japan is the biggest market in Asia for dress shoe brands, but a lot of the cheaper shoes (below 200) are made elsewhere in Asia and just finished at home (similar to Italy). Really? As Carmina did when it first became popular, and as TLB Artista (below) is perhaps doing now. On the otherhand Viberg Halketts and 145s fit a bit smaller in the same last. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. Simon, I really appreciate the articles lately with a focus on quality at a more approachable price point. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. Foster & Son get this so much better with their RTW. But its a not a secret that English brands, in general (this for example does not go for the premium brands) use less good leather soles than Spanish and Italian makers of welted shoes, in general. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes. They last forever, but unfortunately they are even stiffer than Meermin shoes (really didnt like those), and take a year or two to wear in. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. I hope that makes sense. Thanks Simon, great work as always. I own two loafers by Morjas, one stretched so much that my heel keeps slipping out. Steve. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. Carminas just dont break down easily. Do you think that this pair are too smart: https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, Would this pair be better suited: https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113. AEs MacNeil is the epitome of wingtips imho. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. Joseph Cheaney are undoubtedly the thinking flaneurs cordonnier. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). Dress socks. Something to keep in mind. But their attempt to branch out has caused them to lose their focus. I can see a grey being useful, but that's about all probably. Please support us by using them. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. The soles on the Trickers town shoes wear down quickly. I have to disagree. Loake Bullet last (F-fit): 7Uk fits but a bit tight around toes. This was several years ago, so my recollection isnt as detailed. But in the same moment, I realised this was unfair. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. They wear down quickly." An interesting read. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. This goes for Allen Edmonds now as well, where they will routinely reach 700 if bought directly from the manufacturer shipped out to Canada. Frankly, I wouldnt wear anything else. No more Stows for me. They wear down quickly.. The toe length isn't excessive either. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. On an industry level, theres also more variation among the Spanish brands, not least because a lot of them are younger, changing, and trying to fit into an increasingly competitive market. Sounds like a nice choice of shoes. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. European lasts just dont fit well as they have heels that are way too big. The last of their chukka didnt fit me, but the suede felt surprisingly good for the price. Im trying to decide between the following two options: 1) Myrqvist Molle Loafers @ 151 per pair, 2) Trickers Elton Loafers @ 225 per pair (on sale). I wear a US10/UK9 and opted for a UK9, on Pepe's recommendation, and the fit is spot on. Meermin shoes are highly trendy and fashionable shoes. Both of my pinky toes stick slightly out, sometimes I say I have splayed toes, but it's really just the pinky toe on each foot likes a bit of room. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. Although the vast majority of my formal clothes over the last 40+ years have been bespoke, I have never seen or felt the need to go bespoke on shoes. Berwick is very good quality and seems to be stealing some of Loakes market share in the U.K. Prices at the well known shoe store near Victoria undercut Loake. These Meermin shoes are comfortable, fashionable, trendy, and highly durable. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. Finally, in terms of comfort, the insoles are much thicker and more comfortable in terms of conforming to the shape of my foot than any other shoes on this list (including Weston) other than Andres Sendra. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Skolyx is easily the best budget tier brand I have come across. Loake make some shoes in India, 1880 range is made in UK. They look nice but if I know Ill be in shoes the entire day and might walk a bit I do not wear them. Start-up brands are often good on marketing, on styling and photography. **. Im going to give Cheaney (great value in the sales) a try instead. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Carmina Simpson 8.5UK: Tried for oxfords but had to return, instep was too low for closed lacing. Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. *** Viberg GYW fits just a touch smaller than Stitchdown. When you go to shoe shows like Micam, the Berwick stand is always the one that's crowded.. Im a regular customer of both Jermyn Street shops and the customer service Ive consistently experienced over many years has been exceptionally good, significantly better than Ive experienced in some other, more expensive establishments that will be well known to readers of this blog. Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? From my personal experience, there has been a decline in quality in inverse proportion to price increases. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. When weve returned to normal I might need a trip to Spain to try on a selection from Carmina, Meermin and the other brands suggested in this article. Similar articles on suits, jackets, shirts etc are desperately needed. Id like to add a little comment on the Vietnam shoe makers here. I guess what I am saying is that depending on where youre, the good value for under certain dollar amount list will really change for you. Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. I bought AS through him when they were the best value for money in higher end shoes then moved to C&J on his advice. I think calling things cost-effective when you just mean cheaper would be a needless euphemism. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Viberg 2030E 8.5: Good to great fit, but depends on the year and the run. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. This separates footwear from most of fashion and it feels good to support the companies that work towards this. I used DT cushioned boot socks at the time. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. Here you'll find an extensive sizing chart for Goodyear welted shoes from Skolyx, Yanko and TLB Mallorca. Great read Simon. Same thing is true at a luxury level. Overall, Meermin shoes are great shoes, but they appear to be poorly finished when compared to Carminas. Allen Edmonds is perhaps most similar to Loake or Barker. Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. Theyre a good place to start: a baseline of quality. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. (My feet are only moderately narrow, so I dont have issues with normal width lace up shoes). NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Does that refer to leather- or rubber ones? Theyre the only pair from this collection that I got out of the box and went wow. Im a student in Sweden and I have worn a couple of the brands mentioned in the article (and in the comment section) during the last couple of years. I still end up with shoes that are markedly higher quality than the vast majority of whats sold, and the more reasonable prices allow me to accumulate a broader range of options. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. I think one point that was briefly touched on but very important is that the different brands price point will be really different depending where you are. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). https://eu.jmweston.com/en/collections/bottines-homme/products/edouard-chukka-boot-homme-cuir-veau-velours-marron-fonce, Thats certainly a risk with some French brands, but not usually with Weston. It is still quite hard to fathom the yearly price increases on EG shoes given their pitiful customer service. Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. Please support us by using them. The nicest pair of shoes I own is a pair of JM Weston oxfords (from their main line, not the Blake line), and I have to work to tell the difference between the two (Weston has shaped heels, for example). Not least their finer ranges are really nice IMO. in 9D my feet can slide right out. Theyre not as refined as the other Asian brands, but stand out for making Goodyear in the old-school way, stitching directly to the insole. So, rather than the gemming method that most modern Goodyear shoes have, where a canvas ribbing is used instead. Thanks for taking the time to reply. It is relatively easy to find them discounted, Apologies if this question is in the wrong place. The lower tier shoes arent and if C&J or EG are out of reach, go with Alden rather than any of the cheaper Northampton brands. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. 3. Ive mostly moved to bespoke now due to my weird feet, but I do own a pair of Morjas suede chukkas that I use in bad weather. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? For a reasonable upcharge, you can select any of their basic designs and pick your own choice of last, leather, and sole options. For Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. 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