IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. Performance Tuned. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Shocking I know. That said, this just breaks my heart to see this moron Reese damage the brand. Make this a massive intractable mess. Or in the General Assembly. WebProduct Description. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. Apples and suspension bridges here. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Im a New Yorker. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. No guilt trip on my hip. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. I have to say this really makes me mad. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. Done. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? RRA should be punished too. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Could be paperweights. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). Not a nice odor. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. F$&@ Ruger too! Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. Rock River Arms had one seat. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. Its called doing business. Are they doing town halls? Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. it Make the bill political kryptonite. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Pennsylvania checking in. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. Better sell that RRA while you still can. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? They ignored it. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. If youve already implemented them, great. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. AR Parts. In the world of .308 Win. We beat back a similar bill last year. Out of stock. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] Post interesting results everywhere. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. This isnt really about the law itself. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. Gun owners should have bankrupted Ruger immediately, but they didnt. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Its not just selling, genius. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. Damn shame. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. Huh? So, buying 5 and selling 4 is the limit. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. Get a Dan Wesson instead. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Its about the same price as an M1A. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. I think probably not. This says a lot about the people running the company. Fuck Ruger as well. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. AR-15 Parts. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Damage done. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. Glad I happened upon this article. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. See below for more information. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? And rra. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. (This is in response to Mark). Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. It may not even pass the House. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Out of stock Compare. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. Such a thing exists. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Magpul moved to WY. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. Its not difficult. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. Youve just restated Bill Rugers justification for selling out gun-rights so he could keep his company viable. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. Great gun. Layoffs to follow. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. 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