Manufacturers loved taking credit for their work, mainly after Mason lost several patent theft lawsuits. An antique green or blue cobalt glass canning jar is something else, however, and they can be exceptionally valuable not just up to $300 but sometimes even close to or above $1,000 for a Ball blue color jar. Mason jars are a symbol for the American how-to spirit and heart of the home. As of the time of this writing, I have examined some PINT size jars, but I dont know if they are (or will be) producing quart and/or half-gallon sizes. To be fair, email inquiries may end up in the inbox of someone in an office who simply has no useful information concerning questions of company history and certain jars made many decades ago. The old timers, God rest they souls, swore every 13 was broken as soon as their hands touched it. Jeremiah, most jars bearing the BALL brand name are not handblown they are machine-made (either on semi-automatic machines from the 1890s or fully-automatic, early 1900s). All websites talk about number embossing to determine batch or manufacturer location. Please see my page on Ball Bros Glass Manufacturing Company. In the above article, it states that the new reproductions are Perfect Mason but I purchased a set of the new amethyst pint jars and the side has a dropped A underlined Ball with IMPROVED beneath. Thescandal of counterfeited Ball Mason jarspassing as antiques rocked the community. % of people told us that this article helped them. Reverse: 1913 1915 Lots of these kinds of jars were made by many unidentified bottle/jar makers. Lee, thats an example of ghosting or ghost embossing, it is seen fairly frequently on older glass insulators, and on the base of some jars and bottles, mostly on older handblown bottles before, generally, 1920 or so. I dont have all of the very latest editions of these books and had not perused them closely to see if we could narrow down the date range for the jar. Take care, I dont see anything oabout numbers on the front of jars. The Gmail software has evidently been flagging some legitimate emails as "Spam" in recent months. I have a few of them that I bought in the 70s for my jelly. (Ball Bros>>>> Saint-Gobain Containers>>>>> Verallia>>>>> and now Ardagh Group. I have an antique canning jar that holds almost 8 cups that I think might be rare because I have searched online and Ebay and have never seen one like it due to the unusual LOGO. Helpful. Hi Michele (and Lee), metal lid, porcelain lined, I should say. Logo of two water drops Pasabahce, Turkey. Thanks Sue, Hi Sue, Square Wide Mouth Pint $7.99 Kerr 'Self Sealing' - U.S. Pat. References Weve put together this comprehensive guide to help you avoid deception from counterfeiters who create dubs and intend to pass them off as antiques. Web$33.95 Vintage Large Blue BALL PERFECT MASON JAR 1/2 Half GLN Zync Lid 9 1/4" 1923-1933 $14.95 +$14.95 shipping Vintage Ball Perfect Mason Blue Canning Jar #13 Zinc Lid 1923-1933 (A47) $25.95 Last one 1923 - 1933 Vintage Ball Perfect Mason Jar Blue #8 with Lid One Quart $10.00 +$5.57 shipping David. Made in 1886, it has a distinctive dark reddish black color. The lettering is spelled correctly and the S does NOT look like a Z as mentioned in some of the Asian replicas. Though collectible Mason jars are Would you happen to know what that means? From what I have been reading I feel like it should have Ball somewhere on the jar. They are marked (on front) BALL PERFECT MASON, on rear 1913 1915 / 100 YEARS OF / AMERICAN / HERITAGE / MADE IN U.S.A. . As a small thank you, wed like to offer you a $30 gift card (valid at GoNift.com). Thanks for taking the time to tell us about your experiences concerning the #13 jars. Thank you for your time. Do you have any idea what the F represents or where I can find information on that? I found a blue jar in my woods that seems to fit the 1910-1923 model description. It is a number 7. Number of small seeds Then, in 1896, Cursive lettering took over. I am trying to find a date and value for a green (somewhat light) wax seal canning jar with a K on the bottom. These reproduction (fake) versions were NOT made or sold as official BALL products in regular retail outlets, unlike the modern reissues made by Ardagh Group that I discuss elsewhere on this page. David. In general, Ball Perfect Mason variants are listed in the Red Book from #270 to #295-6. And thanks for the hints on the lids. There are many minor variants of Ball jars, sometimes found in various shades of true green (not aqua). Personally, I think most of the stories are hogwash, although I wouldnt doubt that it happened on a very occasional basis, and just often enough to provide impetus for an urban legend (rural legend?). David. Hi Dianne, The jar has what swirl marks on the bottom but also a line all the way from top to bottom. Most of the info is from Standard Fruit Jar Reference which was last published in 2011. Each jar has unique features that make it better than others. Still, these hermetically sealed glass wonders can be priced by collectors if they are old enough or if they have some specific and rare features. No other markings. Keegan, Ball Brothers Glass Company made a wide variety of containers besides their better-known fruit jars. ISBN-10 : 9990394032. Ball Perfect Mason jars were made utilizing steel molds as part of ABM (Automatic Bottle Machine) i.e. Report Mason jars are one of those items that are both awesome and technically ordinary. The J17 is a mold number. There are likely other reasons. Hi Tim, There are many, many variations of mold numbers on the base of those jars. There are no doubt minor variants/errors that are not currently listed in that guide. They sound like typical Ball jars that were made in very large numbers, and although they are old and considered collectible, since they are common they have only minor value to collectors, perhaps 1 to 3 dollars apiece in good condition. AMERICAN And the older the vintage mason jars are, the more valuable they are overall. That line should show signs of age centuries of dragging it across surfaces mustve left a mark or two. There are no grooves for a rings to screw onto. Thank you very much for your post and info. https://photos.app.goo.gl/njdYy1ERjygprFC46, I was told the Amish broke many #13 jars.. , Hi Christine, (Ive been told that the current edition is sold out, but a NEW updated edition is scheduled to be released in January of 2023! The first design was an error, but the Ball brothers turned it into a coffee dispenser. I really appreciate your post on the site! Does this make it any rarer, and is it possibly just an earlier one before the Perfect was added? KPP mark on base of amber Budweiser beer bottle, date coded 1972 (Photo courtesy of Shannon Brown). Since then, (2014) the medium green jars were issued, with the name PERFECTION on them, and the purple jars were issued in 2015, celebrating the 100th anniversary of the IMPROVED jars first issued in 1915. Quart, Shoulder Seal, c.1875-1900 ), Diamond Glass Company, Royersford, Pennsylvania, EUREKA design on base of unidentified tumbler / jelly glass, Fairmount Glass Works / Fairmount Glass Company, Falls City Glass Company, Louisville Kentucky (1884-1892), Faroy Glass Candle Holders FAROY U.S.A., Federal Law Forbids Sale or Reuse of this Bottle Phrase, Fishing Floats (Glass Fishing Net Floats), Fletchers Castoria / Pitchers Castoria bottles, Frank Millers Crown Dressing ~ Victorian Era shoe polish bottles, Frederick Heitz Glass Works, St. Louis, MO (1882-1898), G. Most of the time, all you need to do is look at the logo thats stamped on the glass itself. 100 years of ), C B B; C B K ; C B M marks on antique pickle jars, Coke Bottles (Glass Manufacturers Marks on Coke Bottles), Collectible Milk Glass General Information / Overview, Depression Glass (What is Depression Glass? A frisbee-shaped glass lid took the place of the screw-on lid and was held in place by an ingenious wire clamp, invented by Henry William Putnam in 1882. Hello, I have a jar where the Ball logo dates it between 1910-1923. David, I found a Ball Perfect Mason jar that has grippers, cups and ounces on it and says made in USA on back. Today I found a Ball jar in an old cellar.its a pint jar and it says THE Ball Mason. The number is the number of the mold used to make the jar. Plus, did you know that older mason jars can have quite a bit of monetary value too? There is a line in front of the A leading into it. Sandra, please check your email, including any spam/trash folders. Hope this helps, David, I have many vintage light blue to dark blue I have one that is the Masons patent 1858 jar a48 on bottom and a snowflake type of embossing on back. Sorry about answering so late. A listing of many of the Ball Perfect Mason jar variations, including error jars, can be found in the Red Book, a price guide used by fruit jar collectors. I hope this will be of help to collectors. You have the half-gallon size. Written across diagonally, the logo says Standard in cursive writing and below it, also diagonally, it has what looks sort of like a banner with the word MASON (all in capital letters) written within the banner. Debra, (I think yours would probably be #280). I would like more info on that one too. Though theyre originally from Canada, there are American pieces. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; Sounds like the type made circa 1923-1933. David, [Edit May 15, 2021: Please check out my reply to a comment on a similar jar, at this URL: https://glassbottlemarks.com/#comment-15098 ]. Have you checked out my webpage on the BOYD milkglass liners? The difference in size is because of the prohibition era. David. Some dedicated and experienced antique jar collectors will say they think the number 13 jars are just as common as jars as those with other numbers. Some Mason jars are worth well over $1,000. David. And, if you have a full basement full of mason jars your grandmother used to use for vinegar, jam, peaches, or her old weird recipe, its not that unlikely that more than one of them has some extra value in the eyes of collectors. How do i know if they are repros? Hi Charlotte, Publisher : Rosemary Humbert Martin Pub (January 1, 1975) Language : English. The fun color attracted consumers, so the producers stuck to it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I think most of those Ball Perfect Mason jars with the letters along with the numbers (which are mold identification marks) were made sometime in the 1930s-1960s, but that is only a guess, and I cant narrow down the date range any better. They are sold through Hearthmark (Jardens Home Brands). Chris, Ive written you with several requests wanting to know information about some mason jars I have.. Why no response? Bless your heart for any time you have left over to address the inquiries you receive on your site. It is the blue/green color and says STANDARD underlined only under STAN. or short half-gallon jars were popular with bootleggers during Prohibition (1920s and early 1930s). 2 One Quart SilverliningByTravis (4,165) $12.50 One quart Ball Canning Jars circa 1923-1933 aestheticallyaged (210) $10.00 1923 to 1933 Ball Perfect Mason Jar Quart Size w/ Metal ring cap and Glass Ball insert. Hazel Atlas Company (1902-1964) Some variants have vertical raised lines (ribs or grips) along the sides, added to assist in handling the jars while they are wet. Some BALL MASON jars have the third L loop (circa 1900-1910), and others do not, which are assumed to be somewhat later into the early-mid 1910s. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; I have a ball perfect Mason w/ 8 in the middle of the bottom and just off to the side a small 8. Please click here to go to my alphabetical mark listings, starting with page one: Glass Bottle Marks. (So I assume there are lots of jars out there with those letters as well as B, D, E, F and G.) There is a small circled R underneath the BALL logo on the front of the new jars. As a result, there are only 12 pieces of the first batch which makes them highly valued. (Ball Blue is the standard color of these jars, a somewhat more blue shade of aqua). Hi Casey, https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=standard+mason+jar+%28pint%2C+quart%2C+gallon%29&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=standard++mason+jar+%28pint%2Cquart%2C+gallon%29. mark on antique glass bottles & jars, Letter L in cursive script mark: Libbey Glass Company, Liquor Bottle Permit Numbers Numerical List, Lynchburg Glass Corporation, Lynchburg, Virginia, M inside a circle: Maryland Glass Corporation, Baltimore, MD, MASONS PATENT NOV 30TH 1858 Fruit Jars Summary, Maywood Glass Company, Compton, California (1930-1959) ~ MG Connected mark, McLaughlin Glass Company, Vernon, California, M.G.CO. The wax sealer jars have a grooved ring around the top of the jar instead of threading to accommodate a metal screw lid. WebWeight: .41 Pounds. I want to be sure I found an original, not a replica. The mold mark on the bottom is in Roman numerals, IV which I havent seen before. Ball Bros was based in Muncie, Indiana. This perfect mason jar is easily recognizable by the Masons. (I have sent inquiries to other glass companies with no responses.) The Self-sealing jar by Kerr existed at two different times in history. I am trying to find a zinc lid for this charmer but a regular standard lid is too large. Thank you! 2) about how old it is, 2) and if it has lead in it? {"smallUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikihow.com\/images\/thumb\/b\/ba\/Date-Old-Ball-Mason-Jars-Step-1-Version-2.jpg\/v4-460px-Date-Old-Ball-Mason-Jars-Step-1-Version-2.jpg","bigUrl":"\/images\/thumb\/b\/ba\/Date-Old-Ball-Mason-Jars-Step-1-Version-2.jpg\/aid4914400-v4-728px-Date-Old-Ball-Mason-Jars-Step-1-Version-2.jpg","smallWidth":460,"smallHeight":345,"bigWidth":728,"bigHeight":546,"licensing":"
License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> License: Creative Commons<\/a> \u00a9 2023 wikiHow, Inc. All rights reserved. Click here: Ball Brothers Glass Manufacturing Company. Hopefully Stephen and other collectors can come up with better info from studying the information published there. By 1900, the Hero group produced jams and marmalades in mason jars. does anyone know what date the marking B17 was imprinted on the mason jars? The base is marked with the H over smaller a logo. shows all logo styles beginning in late 19th century that way there is no guessing.on the jar era. Hello, I found a box of old Ball jars and two of them have the # B18 and the other has 18 but on the bottom says A18 and the one has B18 on bottom. Its likely that White Lightning derived its name from the fact that bootleggers used these jars to store their product. This site is about background historical information for glass collectors. There are a few differences between the new ones and the old originals which can be easily seen. Perhaps it's the timeless logo, the inexplicably comfortable weight of the vessel, or the effortless balance between elegance and utility that has secured Ball's success for the last century. BTW, fruit jars were virtually never made with lead in the glass formula. amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; Quart, Clear, Lightning Seal, C. $5-6.00. (They are the same, typical Ball Blue or blueish-aqua color seen in most of the originals.) I am sure it is not a reproduction. http://www.weststpaulantiques.com/galleryofjars.html, General discussion forum for Ball fruit jar collectors: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/balljarcollectorscommunitycenter/, Ball Jar Collectors discussion group on Facebook (this is a private group and requires an OK by the moderators before posting). Thanks, Laurie, in my opinion there is very little significance. By using our site, you agree to our. Buffalo jars are rare and old. Virtually all sand worldwide contains trace quantities of iron. Hello. Here is a picture: https://ibb.co/z6ttmn6, Hi Steven, Vintage Antique Green Mason Jar Pint Sized with/Zinc Lid 1900/1910 BALL MASON Canning Fruit Jar Glass Mason Jar- SWEET! Angular Glass Containers Corporation mark, used beginning circa 1933- 1960s? One of the most common error jars is a Ball jar with a misspelling of the word Perfect, and common variations include perffct, peprect, and perefct.. Hello Angel, most of the later clear Ball jars are very common and dont have much collector value, although they still have (of course) practical, useful value for canning. Lots of them are still around, boxes of them having been found after long storage in pantries, closets, warehouses, etc, in never used condition. If you disable this cookie, we will not be able to save your preferences. It merely shows the position in theAuto Bottling Machineduring production. 1/2 Gallon,ShoulderSeal, c. 1910-1923 https://www.minnetrista.net/blog/blog/2013/06/27/ball-family-history/how-to-date-a-ball-jar The invention gave homemakers anew means of preserving food for their households, in addition to smoking, salting, drying, and pickling. I looked up your jar variation in the reference book The Fruit Jar Works by Alice Creswick (1995) and the jar is listed officially as Jar #1770 in those listings. Who Is Responsible For Driveway Culverts,
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